Somebody’s Playing Politics

From Uncle’s Survey Results In: Local PA Voters not as dumb/bitter as HRC, MSM or Mydd think: “[Screw the mainstream media] if you want to know how the good folks of PA are taking notice to bitter-gate. Instead, take a look at what the local PA papers are saying about this. When looking at what is being said in the local papers across PA, we see there is no traction concerning this dumb ass story.”

8 Comments

  1. Posted April 14, 2008 at 04:16 pm | Permalink

    this is definitely something that pisses me off about both candidates… - on one hand you got hillary calling obama an elitist that talks down to the good old “folks” of america… - and then you got obama publicly regretting his choice of words…

    f@ck that…

    obama should have been like… - “hillary thinks that i’m an elitist… - she insinuates that i’m on a high horse eating caviar and using right wing talking points of the nineties… - she has been twisting my words time and time again into something that is so utterly untrue that i’m beginning to believe that she thinks that the american people are gullible enough to believe this nonsense… - at first it’s my inexperience that bugs her… - then it’s my pastor… - and then suddenly i’m an elitist right winger… - make up your mind”…

    and then he should go onto a tirade of how much of an elitist hillary is… - with the lobbyist money that she receives for her campaign that no doubt will want a favor in return… - with a husband who already had his eight years in the white house but still wants more… - with a political add which portrays her as tony soprano… - the biggest elitist of them all… - in fact… - a gangster… - with the caviar dinners that she had time to eat in the middle of a “war zone”… - come on now…

  2. Posted April 14, 2008 at 04:33 pm | Permalink

    or maybe that would just feed the fire… - f#ck it… - obama should protest politics by taping his mouth shut…

  3. justin
    Posted April 14, 2008 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Or admit that he f’ed up by classifying that the small town people are “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” You can push it anyway you want but what he said was a pretty stereotypical of people that chances are he has never known.

    I love how he was taking a shot at the Clintons “And they fell through the Clinton Administration” when it all happened.

  4. Posted April 15, 2008 at 03:04 am | Permalink

    i just think that what he said isn’t what hillary is insinuating… - she might as well say that you shouldn’t vote for barack because he thinks that you’re a piece of garbage… - which… - of course… - isn’t true…

    whatavers…

    maybe hillary should get the nomination… - then she can botch it all up in her first term and barack will be there to obliterate her ass in the next presidential campaign…

    politics are ridiculous…

  5. Posted April 15, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    I don’t know, Justin…I mean, it seems like a dust-up over nothing. Do you think it’s untrue that people are angry about losing their jobs to globalization? Do you think it’s untrue that people are bitter about decades of unfulfilled promises from politicians? Do you think it’s untrue that some of those bitter people then “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustration?” Not all people, of course, but some people do.

    They “cling” to their guns in that way that says, “You took my job, but you won’t take my dignity as a man.”

    They “cling” to their religion in that way that says, “You took my children’s hope for a prosperous future in this world, but you won’t take their chances of having an afterlife with the lord.”

    Stirred up by demagogues and rich right-wingers, they raise their hackles to any outsider or outside-influence, saying, “Rich and Greedy Americans aren’t to blame; Muslims, Mexicans, and the Chinese are.”

    Obama is out there everyday. He’s spending time in diners, in truck-stops, in churches. He’s held forums in every library, elementary school, and VFW hall from New York to California. He’s talked to the rural folks in Nevada, the farmers in Iowa, and the steel-workers in Pennsylvania. He’s seen more of America and talked to more Americans than you and I combined.

    This isn’t something unique to Obama. Hillary’s doing the same thing. As anyone must who deigns to represent 280,000,000 people.

    As the article I linked to above suggests, if you look at what the people in Pennsylvania are actually saying about all of this, the answer is: they aren’t saying anything. They all know 1) what he said is true…people are angry; and 2) what he said isn’t half the gaffe that Hillary and the media are trying to make it be.

  6. justin
    Posted April 15, 2008 at 04:23 pm | Permalink

    I have no doubt that some people cling to those things. My main problems are that he made the comment, not to the people he was talking about, but to people in California who to some come off as elitists. Also grouping all these people together is not a great way of communicating his point. Is it a big deal? No. But was it a stupid thing to say? Yes.

    If he was saying this to a bunch of small town middle class people then I would not have as much of a problem with it. It comes off as the professor who lives with the natives for a month then goes back and reports the lives of the savages to the rest of the academic world.

  7. Posted April 15, 2008 at 04:33 pm | Permalink

    Fair enough.

    To his credit though, he’s been repeating the argument throughout Pennsylvania and Indiana these last few days.

  8. justin
    Posted April 15, 2008 at 04:43 pm | Permalink

    I think the big deal is that Obama is such a good speaker that when he makes a small gaff like this it is big news. It would be the same if George W. said something that didn’t come across as slow.

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